Can We Really Judge a Man’s Heart by his Treatment of Animals

If you read nothing else please click the following link and complete the form to indicate your support of the League Against Cruel Sports’ campaign to keep hunting banned:

“We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals.”

Immanuel Kant, Lectures on Ethics

Consider the above words in reference to the person whose rampant tirade appears below

“I have spent all week in a state of complete fury.

Like a man possessed with an advanced case of Tourette syndrome, I have been shouting at traffic and assailing my fellow men (and women).

What has brought on this demented state? The hunting debate

It is difficult to explain why this one issue makes me so furious.

Sitting in parliament involves hours of listening to opinions with which you profoundly disagree. I am usually able to do this without shouting, but as soon as I hear Labour members calling for hunting to be banned, I completely lose it.

When John McFall (Dumbarton) gets to his feet I shout “go back to Scotland, you’ve already banned it.”

Interrupting Gerald Kaufman during one of his lengthy and over-precise questions to the minister, I heard myself baying “shut up, you pompous prat.”

During the hunting debate I sat patiently for five hours without catching the Speaker’s eye. My carefully prepared speech was steadily crumpled and shredded in frustration.”

These remarks were made by then MP, now unfortunately Prime Minister, David Cameron in the Guardian Newspaper.

What does David Cameron’s treatment of animals and his remarks above say about his heart? What do these comments say about his state of mind?

“But if we stop loving animals, aren’t we bound to stop loving humans too?”

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Cancer Ward

Yes indeed we are. I firmly believe that if we cannot love or feel compassion for an animal we are less likely to feel compassion for a human being, or put in reverse we cannot experience the full meaning of what it is to be compassionate if we harm another animal without remorse or even worse for pleasure.

Besides the unacceptable remarks regarding Tourett’s syndrome, which seems to be a popular but offensive comparison Cameron has made before and continues to make, his sickening enthusiasm for hunting a defenceless animal after pursuing him with a pack of hounds is nothing short of disturbing, not only because of the barbaric cruelty involved but because of his zealous even obsessive determination to pursue the matter of preventing a ban on hunting with hounds. Also the devious manipulative tactical ideas which he has to stop the ban are also disquieting, particularly in light of his dogged determination and manipulations to push through draconian welfare reforms by any means possible. Reforms that have left many sick and disabled people in poverty, forced many into homelessness and compelled others to an American like workfare scheme of forced slave labour as unemployed young people and the sick and disabled, including the terminally ill, are coerced into a work experience programme for no pay. His obsessive drive to implement these reforms has indeed many similarities to his determination to stop the hunting with hounds ban.

You really have to read the entire tirade from the person who now governs the UK

They think it’s all over

Tory MP David Cameron sees red during this week’s hunting debate and looks forward to a fierce battle against the introduction of a ban.

David Cameron, Friday 22 March 2002

Besides the unease that his rhetoric above has in light of the vicious and callous welfare reforms and controversial privatisation of the National Health Service, the whole thing is a sickening insight into the mind of a person who gets pleasure from hurting an animal. His enthusiasm for doing so is scary and boarders on psychotic. Many dangerous Sociopaths have an history of animal cruelty. No – I am not suggesting that Cameron is a dangerous sociopath of the ‘serial killer’ variety, this is a popular misconception as the vast majority of sociopaths are not.

“Many Psychopaths “make their living” by using charm, deceit, and manipulation to gain the confidence of their victims. Many of them can be found in white collar professions where they are aided in their evil by the fact that most people expect certain classes of people to be trustworthy because of their social or professional credentials. Lawyers, doctors, teachers, politicians, psychiatrists and psychologists, generally do not have to earn our trust because they have it by virtue of their positions. But the fact is: psychopaths are found in such lofty spheres also!”

“A psychopath who grows up in a stable family and has access to positive social and educational resources might become a white-collar criminal, or perhaps a somewhat shady entrepreneur, politician, lawyer, judge, or other professional. Another individual with the same traits, and a deprived background might become a common con-artist, a drifter, mercenary, or violent criminal.”

The Psychopath – The Mask of Sanity:

Social factors including parenting determines if a sociopath becomes the stereotypical serial killer or other criminal, or a politician, a lawyer, a doctor, even a psychiatrist. However upbringing and social considerations determine only the expression the condition will take and will have no effect on the person’s lack of empathy or conscience.

Maybe not the Hollywood serial killer of popular culture or the despotic genocidal ethnic cleanser, however, many of his policies since election have resulted in widespread suffering amongst the sick and disabled community due to callous and vicious welfare reforms. His shocking manipulative tactics in gaining the confidence of disabled and sick people prior to the election by using his disabled son is reflected in the following statements that Cameron made before the election, which in light of recent events seem now so utterly shocking in their insincerity. Such manipulative tactics are indicative of sociopathy

Referring to his disabled son he said:

“I help care for a severely disabled child – my son. It’s what I do at the start of each day. It’s sharpened my focus on the world of care assessments, eligibility criteria, disability living allowance, respite breaks,”

Later, in another interview, yet again he explains how his own personal experiences had shaped his views:

“The very painful thing about disability – whether your own or your loved one’s – is the feeling that the situation is out of your control. When the system that surrounds you is very top-down, bureaucratic, inhuman, that can only increase your feelings of helplessness … but I do believe there are moments of despair, helplessness and frustration that could be directly alleviated by the work of government.”

If you are not familiar with what is happening here in the UK with regards to the welfare reforms and the disastrous effect this is having on people who are too ill to work, please visit the websites listed at the end of this entry.

Our humanity isn’t measured by how we treat other people…Our humanity is measured by how we treat animals.

Chuck Palahniuk

Why is Cameron’s enthusiasm for fox hunting so disturbing, how does this make him a sadist or a sociopath? After all until recently this was a respectable “sport”

Think about it, what is the difference between hunting a fox with a pack of hounds and hunting your neighbour’s cat in a similar manner. Too shocking to even contemplate. If this happened to some ones cat or dog there would be a public outrage, the RSPCA would prosecute and the perpetrator would be labelled a sadistic monster, a sociopath and be publically vilified, heavily fined, even spend some time in jail, he would not be elected to parliament and most certainly would not be elected as Prime Minister. His sick and sadistic behaviour would automatically exempt him from such a position. Yet because Cameron’s enthusiasm for fox hunting is not seen in quite the same way, at least not according to the law, no such vilification is forthcoming at least not officially nor by the general population who either do not know of his fondness for the so called sport or have forgotten. Yet are not the two scenarios the same, a fox or a cat what is the difference the hunting of any animal for pleasure is sadistic, disturbing.

Though of course concerning fox hunting this time he did not get his own way and fox hunting has rightly been outlawed. Though as soon as Cameron was elected he did try to reinstate hunting with hounds and continues with this pursuit, however this practice continues to be banned – at least for now.

“This tendency [to cruelty] should be watched in them [children], and if they incline to any such cruelty, they should be taught the contrary usage. For the custom of tormenting and killing other animals will, by degrees, harden their hearts even towards men… And they, who delight in the suffering and destruction of inferior creatures, will not be apt to be very compassionate or benign to those of their own kind.”

John Locke

The point is if you can kill an animal not only without any qualms but with pleasure and relish you are one step closer to killing another person and you are further removed from the ability to empathise and to feel compassion

A little satirical humour shows the connection:


“Despite dozens of suicides, hundreds of hospitalisations and surging unrest – according to Iain Duncan Smith – the Secretary of State for the Department of Work and Pensions – the disabled are “not suffering”, from the Tory governments reforms which he is overseeing with a passion approaching (actually passing) sadism. Clearly he is either a sociopath and a liar, or completely out of touch with what is going on. There are no other explanations.”

Poster and commentary below by Bizantine_K

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I vehemently oppose both the evils of hunting and the equal evils of most of Cameron’s and the Tory government’s policies, most particularly the barbaric welfare reforms and the privatisation of the NHS and in general his support of the tiny minority in our society who exploit the earth, animals and other humans – the rich.

Is Cameron a sociopath? Who knows. He destroys people’s lives without remorse, with a relentless determination and with manipulation. One thing for sure he has an obsessive and sadistic pleasure for hunting defenceless and harmless animals, this in itself speaks volumes.

“In examining, either historically or philosophically, the subject of humanity and cruelty, it is impossible to separate the question of humanity and cruelty to man from that of humanity and cruelty to the lower animals. Between cruelty to man and cruelty to beasts there is doubtless a wide difference, but it is purely a difference of degree. Humanity in either case, cruelty in either case, is essentially the same feeling, arising from the same tendencies in the mind. “

Edward A. Freeman, The Mortality of Field Sports

More Anti hunting views

Gerry Steinberg MP (Labour) points out that the cruelty extends to the hounds.

“It sickens me to say that puppies that do not show aptitude for hunting, or whose colouring or body shape does not meet the requirements, are usually shot by the kennelman. Foxhounds fortunate enough to make the grade as puppies are trained to chase and kill foxes during the cub-hunting season. It is a particularly unpleasant aspect of hunting that involves the chasing and killing of fox cubs for the purpose of teaching young hounds to kill.

There is no gentle retirement home for these poor animals. When hounds reach the age of six or seven, about half their normal life expectancy, most are simply shot by the very people whom they have served loyally since their birth. That makes a mockery of the hunts� claim that in the event of a ban on hunting with dogs they will have no alternative to shooting them: they shoot them anyway. It is estimated that between 3,000 and 5,000 hounds are killed in that way by hunts each year.”

Lord Harrison

“Killing for pleasure is wrong and should be banned. Fox hunting, stag hunting and hare coursing are moral issues. It is time that we stood up for morality. The commandment Thou shall not kill may be hedged with exceptions. Thou shall not kill for pleasure is not; it is a commandment for the 21st century and it is time that we respected it unambiguously, without prevarication and without procrastination.

The middle way is still driving on the wrong side of the road; it still permits the killing of the fox for pleasure. One cannot kill half a fox. Like Monty Python’s parrot, a fox torn apart by hounds remains dead, deceased and off its perch for ever. Before the fox has been dispatched – sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly – it will have suffered the agonies of the pursuit by animals four times its size and four times its strength. The middle way is a compromise that still seriously compromises the welfare of the fox.”

Finally a very apt comment from St. Francis of Assisi the revered Medieval Christian saint known for his compassion toward animals:

“If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men.”

Most certainly Cameron has excluded the most disadvantaged in society from the shelter of compassion; the sick and disabled including children, the unemployed and the low paid. His poisonous ideology will rob us of our NHS if we do not act now


Anti Hunting :

League Against Cruel Sport

Welfare Reforms:

Black Triangle Campaign

Disabled People Against the Cuts

The broken of Britain thebrokenofbritain.

An updated version of an entry published in my website


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