Donald Trump: Petitions and Comments

Trump’s victory is one of the biggest calamities to befall the west and the effect is that every racist, woman-hater, homophobe and rightwing authoritarian feels vindicated.
Owen Jones

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For various reasons mostly health I have not been able to publish much lately but can’t come back on-line without giving vent to my feelings concerning what could be one of the greatest social upheavals in my lifetime, one that could so easily undo all the social progress of the last fifty years or so.  This is a long post and will no doubt rehash all that has been said upteen times over but who knows there is so much to say and so many of us who wish to say it and I need to say it. Today is Trumps inauguration, so any reminder of this catastrophe is timely, yes it is a catastrophe and all the celebrations, all the celebrities will never make it otherwise .

Below are my comments , the comments of others and information concerning Donald Trump and the US presidential election. Much of this was written shortly after the election but I have not been able to publish until now. If you oppose Trump I have included a few petitions and other actions you can take to voice your protest. Though Frankly petitions will now have little affect but it is good nonetheless to state your opposition.

The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed68.asp  Sadly as we all know this has not happened.

“Alexander Hamilton, who was second only to James Madison in crafting the Constitution, voiced his concerns in The Federalist Papers that someone unqualified, but with a talent for “low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity” could attain office.

As a protection against this, he urged the Electors study the requirements of the job, be “favorable to deliberation”, and, ultimately, choose only someone suited to be Commander in Chief.”

Read More:

Unprecedented — Why the Electoral College Should Stop Donald Trump:
https://medium.com/@dbrezenoff/unprecedented-why-the-electoral-college-should-stop-donald-trump-24d5df62f8e2#.acznirc11

Petitions and other actions you can take

Firstly if you oppose Donald Trump please sign the following petitions.

Demand an End to Trumps Presidency Before it Starts

Trump is not a person. He’s a monstrous, old fashioned, opinionated bigot. He treats women as objects, treats every muslim as a terrorist, wants to keep immigrants out, including removing the ones already here, and he has actively treated sexual assault as if it is ok. Don’t get me started on his opinions of the disabled. Is this really who you want as your president?

Please read more and sign the petition
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/909/030/354/demand-an-end-to-trumps-presidency-before-it-starts/

We will Continue to fight for equality Love and Progress

Donald Trump is the President-elect of the United States, and he won on a platform of hate, bigotry, xenophobia, homophobia, sexism, transphobia, Islamophobia, climate change denial and anti-science rhetoric. To say we are disappointed is an understatement.

This harrowing moment is one of introspection, pain and hopefully, inspiration. Because now more than ever, we must commit to stand with the oppressed, both in the U.S. and abroad. The United States of America is not just one man or one party – it is all of us. We must reaffirm our commitment to fighting for the rights of women, LGBTQ folks, immigrants, folks with disabilities, minorities, folks living in poverty and all who Trump spoke and stood against. Today, many in this country feel scared, and we need to tell them and each other: we are not alone. We will protect each other.

Please continue reading and sign – This is more of a pledge than a petition but well worth signing to demonstrate our solidarity against Trump’s policies of hate.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/644/614/530/we-will-continue-to-fight-for-equality-love-and-progress/?taf_id=30688836&cid=fb_na&z00m=28569049#bbfb=895182964

From the Human Rights Campaign

Ten Ways to Stand Together in Solidarity Against Hate

http://www.hrc.org/blog/ten-ways-to-stand-together-in-solidarity-against-hate

I cannot tell you how shocked I am that this man has been elected as president, waking early on the morning of November the 9th to find that this racist, misogynist, sexist, bigoted vile man had been elected was utterly shocking, beyond belief rather like waking from a dream to find you are now in a nightmare.

Trump is not fit to hold office, in addition to his repugnant agenda he has no experience in politics, what other high position of authority could anyone else hold without experience? It is a dark day for America, a dark day for the world. I fear for black people, for indigenous people, for immigrants, for the poor, for Muslims, for the LGBT community, for disabled and sick people and indeed frankly for anyone who is not white and well off white at that.  I fear also for the environment, all the progress made will be destroyed by this man who openly denies climate change. Already he has said he wants to eliminate NASAs climate research in its entirity no doubt because “it is financially inconvenient to his friends who profit off climate change”.  Animal rights and animal welfare will also suffer as a result of this man’s warped polices which contrary to what the millions who voted for him believe favours the elite.  According to an animal protection group Trump as President could be a ‘A Threat To Animals Everywhere’

Trump represents the rich and powerful he has consolidated the grip of  big corporations. His anti environment polices will grant cart blanch to the very rapacious corporations, which are responsible for climate change and much of the ills that befall this world to both humans and non humans alike, to do as they please without restraint.

The electoral system in the USA rather like ours here in the UK is not truly democratic, Trump did not win the popular vote. The majority do not want this, Hillary Clinton had at the last count 2.36 million more votes than Trump and lost the election. The will of the people is for Clinton to be president. It couldn’t be simpler surely? How can this be right when the person without a majority of votes wins, things need to change in the USA as indeed they do here in the UK. I understand that the electoral college system  has been in place since the Founding Fathers in the 18th century in order that  areas of the country with large populations did not get to dictate the outcome of an election. Nonetheless in my opinion this system however well-intentioned is not democratic surely.

The following comments are a good analysis of the situation regarding the undemocratic electoral system in the USA

Clinton won the popular vote…by a margin greater than the margin in past elections that put people into the white house. In other words, in just a few weeks (December 19th) the United States is gearing up to put someone into the office of the presidency in opposition to who the majority of the voters supported.

The “will of the people”, the “decision of the voters” is apparently going to be reversed and the candidate who lost the election is going to be crowned as president. That’s a “democracy”?

What is going on here? How can a “democracy” result in someone becoming the president in clear opposition to the majority of the voters? A system like that is something other than a “democracy” wherein the vote of a citizen counts to show who they want in a particular office. It’s a system…yes…but it’s not a “democracy”.

Please read the entire article:
The “isms” won the election or did they?
http://veganelder.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/the-isms-won-election-or-did-they.html

Though he did not gain the majority vote a staggering 59,791,135I voted for Trump! Incidentally 99,815,122 people who were eligible to vote did not, many of those who did not vote where democrats, this was of course detrimental to the Clinton campaign, perhaps they now regret this.

It’s incredible, I still can’t believe it even now ! Though not the majority I still have to ask how could so many people vote for such a man? Rather like the Brexit vote here in the UK, many people likely voted on the issue of immigration and racism. It is a sad day when people hate those of another race so much that they are willing to elect a man such as trump in order to give vent to their hatred. I lose heart in the overall goodness and decency of mankind when leaders such as Trump are popular and their policies of hate are readily embraced. Those of us who wish a world of equality for all people where delighted when America elected Obama, it seemed a huge step forward towards an end to racism, prejudice and discrimination, it was than unthinkable that in just eight years time many of the citizens of America would than vote for an openly racist misogynistic homophobic bigot who will have no qualms in triggering a nuclear war. I understand that the vote for Trump may have been a vote against the establishment, though the comprehension of how a billionaire fulfils this criterion is beyond me.Though he has never been part of the political establishment nor held public office, he nonetheless is of the same ilk here he says “I want the establishment — look, I was part of the establishment.  Let me explain. I was the establishment two months ago. I was like the fair-haired boy. I was a giver, a big giver. Once I decided to run, all of a sudden I’m sort of semi-anti-establishment.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nomi-prins/donald-trumps-anti-establishment-scam_b_10927244.html

Even if he was genuinely anti establishment electing him while overlooking his racism, sexism and other isms can never be justified.

It is truly terrifying that this man now has one of the world’s largest nuclear arsenals at his disposal and that at the end of the day has almost cart blance authority to use them.

Indeed a tragic day in the history of humanity, a huge step backwards in our social progress towards a world of equality for all regardless of colour, creed, gender, sexual orientation or indeed any other difference upon which we base a person’s worth.

Some will continue to argue that Trump was democratically elected, even though in real terms he was not and we must continue to emphasize this, people tend to accept such outrages as the electoral college, composed of just 558 people, having the final say when it is blatant opposition of the will of the people in a country that prides itself as a democracy.

Even if Trump did get the popular vote we cannot use democracy as an excuse to turn a blind eye to such a pernicious political agenda and catalogue of wrong doings. It is shocking that so few have actually spoken out and instead congratulated Trump on his victory, a triumph of evil over good, of hate over love, of tolerance over intolerance, of social regression over social progression. Racism and over prejudices cannot be sanctioned under the guise of democracy. It is not democratic to allow rampant racists like the KKK to spew their vile rhetoric of hated and bigotry any more than it is democratic to allow the president or any other world leader to promote polices of racial prejudice. If this was the case almost anything could be condoned under the banner of democracy whether it be morally right or wong. It is, as most people would surely agree, wrong, unethical, grossly immoral to promote racist or other prejudicial ideology, yet trump has been allowed to do precisely that unhindered and unimpeded. This is not democracy. This is not freedom, freedom of speech does not allow for the incitement of hatred, of racism or other prejudice. No nation or any other social set up can allow its citizens or their leader to promote unethical and deeply unjust policies simply because it is the will of the people, which in this case it is not. The will of the people cannot supersede what is right and replace it with what is wrong, it is as simple as that. There is no justification for the incitement of hatred in any code of ethics be it religious or otherwise. If we took democracy to its literal limit I am sure everyone would vote to abolish taxation, such a notion is ludicrous as should be the idea that the incitement and practice of racism and other discrimination is a right of free speech or democracy. Most people recognise that racism and sexism is wrong as is any prejudice which denies others their freedom and basic rights and equality.

Why Trump was allowed to run for president is beyond my comprehension. In addition to his obvious bigotry and prejudices there are the many allegations of sexual abuse, sexual assault and even rape that have been ignored and not even investigated. Why is that? Any other citizen of the USA and indeed in most other western countries would have been immediately investigated.

World leaders,  for the sake of peace equality and freedom for goodness sake speak out!

Stop compromising with racists and misogynists.

I am shocked that few world leaders have spoken out in any real sense of the word. Yes there is insinuation and innuendo but nothing much outspoken conveying the disastrous consequences of this heinous person becoming the leader of not only the USA but of the free world. Obama’s speech was pathetic, the hypocrisy was astounding as were the congratulatory speeches of almost all world leaders. I would not co-operate with any person with the odious opinions of Trump. I would not associate with a racist of his calibre and would not wish to shake his hand or congratulate him. Do not presidents and congress men and women have their right of free speech? Stop pussyfooting about and speak out! Call a spade a spade, a racist a racist, a sexist a sexist. He is a dangerous man who endangers all our lives, in fact he is a threat to every being that lives and as a denier of climate change the very earth itself. For Gods sake say what we all know to be true, that trump is unfit for office, a vile man, a sexual abuser a racist and so on and on the list of this man’s offences, behaviours and ideology – though the word ideology implies something more noble than the hate he spews towards so many sections of our society – is long and disturbing. This man will set the clock back decades to a time that most of us thought would be consigned to history.

Beginning with our unelected Prime minister Teresa May here is a short list of some of those who did not speak out

Concerning the UK it appears that we are willing to sell social justice down the river and accept prejudice and hatred for the sake of a trade deal as Teresa May kowtows to Donald Trump.

“Divisive, unhelpful and wrong,” were Theresa May’s words in December 2015, when she criticised Trump’s call for a ban on Muslims entering the United States.

Here are May’s words of congratulation after the election

“I would like to congratulate Donald Trump on being elected the next President of the United States, following a hard-fought campaign,” she said.

“Britain and the United States have an enduring and special relationship based on the values of freedom, democracy and enterprise.

“We are, and will remain, strong and close partners on trade, security and defence. I look forward to working with President-elect Donald Trump, building on these ties to ensure the security and prosperity of our nations in the years ahead.”
“I would like to congratulate Donald Trump on being elected the next President of the United States, following a hard-fought campaign,”

“Britain and the United States have an enduring and special relationship based on the values of freedom, democracy and enterprise.

“We are, and will remain, strong and close partners on trade, security and defence. I look forward to working with President-elect Donald Trump, building on these ties to ensure the security and prosperity of our nations in the years ahead.”

Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe pledged a continuing close relationship between the US and Japan in his congratulatory message.

“I express my heartfelt congratulations on your election as the next president of the United States,” his statement said. “Japan and the United States are unshakeable allies connected by common values such as freedom, democracy, basic human rights and rule of law.”

Here is a list of all the world leaders who congratulated Trump

Quite a surprise as this list includes Enrique Peña-Nieto, the President of Mexico and Raul Castro, President of Cuba

Continue reading for the complete list
http://ijr.com/2016/11/732443-here-are-all-the-world-leaders-who-have-congratulated-president-elect-donald-trump-so-far/

People who did speak out

Not all British politicians congratulated Trump. Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale said the result was one of “great sadness”.

“While we must all respect the result of this democratic contest, today is a dark day for those of us who believe in compassion, tolerance and equality,”

“Donald Trump was responsible for a hate-filled campaign that was dominated by lies, misogyny and racism. As president-elect, he now has a responsibility to America and the world to heal the deep divisions he has caused.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/us-election-results-theresa-may-congratulates-donald-trump-on-election-as-president_uk_5822ed0de4b0c2e24ab16f5c

Here is what Jeremy Corbyn said:

“Many in Britain and elsewhere will be understandably shocked by Donald Trump’s victory in the US presidential election, the rhetoric around it and what the election result means for the rest of the world, as well as America.

‘Trump’s election is an unmistakable rejection of a political establishment and an economic system that simply isn’t working for most people. It is one that has delivered escalating inequality and stagnating or falling living standards for the majority, both in the US and Britain.

‘This is a rejection of a failed economic consensus and a governing elite that has been seen not to have listened. And the public anger that has propelled Donald Trump to office has been reflected in political upheavals across the world.

“But some of Trump’s answers to the big questions facing America, and the divisive rhetoric around them, are clearly wrong.

“I have no doubt, however, that the decency and common sense of the American people will prevail, and we send our solidarity to a nation of migrants, innovators and democrats. After this latest global wake up call, the need for a real alternative to a failed economic and political system could not be clearer.

“That alternative must be based on working together, social justice and economic renewal, rather than sowing fear and division. And the solutions we offer have to improve the lives of everyone, not pit one group of people against another.

“Americans have made their choice. The urgent necessity is now for us all to work across continents to tackle our common global challenges: to secure peace, take action on climate change and deliver economic prosperity and justice.”

While the above does not contain any sycophantic kowtowing congratulatory comments I honestly cannot see how we can secure peace and tackle global warming with a world leader who is causing division and hatred in his own country and who denies climate change.

Elizabeth Warren:USA senator

‘We will not give an inch’: Elizabeth Warren throws down gauntlet to President-elect Trump

“We will fight back against attacks on Latinos, African Americans, women, Muslims, immigrants, disabled Americans – on anyone,” said Warren, who sparred frequently over Twitter with Trump and criticized him on the campaign trail in the weeks leading up to Tuesday’s election. “Whether Donald Trump sits in a glass tower or sits in the White House, we will not give an inch on this, not now, not ever.”

She said Trump had “encouraged a toxic stew of hatred and fear” and during the campaign “regularly made statements that undermined core values of our democracy.”

Read More
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/we-will-not-give-an-inch-elizabeth-warren-throws-down-gauntlet-to-president-elect-trump/

The archbishop of Canterbury at least did not congratulate Trump

The Archbishop of Canterbury: ‘There are huge amounts of fear’ in the world as a result of Trump’s election

http://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2016-11-09/the-archbishop-of-canterbury-there-are-huge-amounts-of-fear-in-the-world-as-a-result-of-trumps-election/

Many republicans do not support Trump

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/where-republicans-stand-on-donald-trump-a-cheat-sheet/481449/

It was frankly a choice of the lesser of two evils and I admit I do not know all the ins and outs. While Clinton’s campaign was dogged with the e-mail sandal, about which I again admit some ignorance, does it really supersede the long list of Trumps less than ethical behaviours, in some cases maybe down right criminal activities.

Below is a comment which is well worth repeating here. Unfortunately I cannot find the original source of the comment though it has been repeated throughout the internet,  here you can read it with some additions.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/2/1590374/-Best-Comment-ever-TRUMP-Fails-vs-CLINTON-Emails

I have included it again below

Consider the following list of Trumps behaviours and proposed policies compared to Clintons e-mail scandel, surely Hillary Clinton’s e-mails, are the lesser of two evils or rather many evils.

Trump vs Clinton e-mails

“Trump admitting sexual assault.
Clinton emails.
Trump charity fraud.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for nuclear proliferation.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for national stop and frisk.
Clinton emails.
Trump breaks the law and violates trade embargo with Cuba.
Clinton emails.
Trump sued over Trump University fraud.
Clinton emails.
Trump accused of bribing DA in IRS case.
Clinton emails.
Trump doesn’t pay taxes for 20 years.
Clinton emails.
Trump employs campaign manager accused of being involved in illegal corruption with Russia.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for ban of an entire religion from entering US.
Clinton emails.
Trump lied about support for Iraq War over and over in debate.
Clinton emails.
Trump cased dismissed by accuser to re-file b/c of new witness in child rape case.
Clinton emails.
Trump unaware of Russia’s Crimea occupation.
Clinton emails.
Trump unaware of situation in Syria.
Clinton emails.
Trump penalized for racist housing discrimination.
Clinton emails.
Trump files for bankrupcy 6 times.
Clinton emails.
Trump goes 0-3 in debates by showing scant knowledge of world politics.
Clinton emails.
Trump slams people for being POWs. (prisoners of war)
Clinton emails.
Trump calls Mexicans rapists.
Clinton emails.
Trump questions judge’s integrity because of parent’s heritage.
Clinton emails.
Trump deletes emails involved in casino scandal.
Clinton emails.
Trump has over 10 assault victims and witnesses come forward with allegations of abuse.
Clinton emails.
Trump attacks former Miss Universe for being overweight.
Clinton emails.
Trump tweets about sex tapes at 3am.
Clinton emails.
Trump says he will try US citizens accused of terrorism at Gitmo.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for more extreme forms of torture to be used.
Clinton emails.
Trump asks why we can’t use our nukes if we have them.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for offensive bombing attack on sovereign nations because someone gives the middle finger.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls to kill women and children of suspected terrorists.
Clinton emails.
Trump says women should be punished for having abortions.
Clinton emails.
Trump makes fun of disabled people.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for end of freedom of the press.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls global warming a chinese hoax.
Clinton emails.
Trump praises Putin and Kim Jong Un’s strong leadership.
Clinton emails.
Trump openly admits to not paying his contractors during debate.
Clinton emails.
Trump openly admits not apologizing to wife in debate about Access Hollywood tape.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls Obama an illegitimate noncitizen hundreds of times over 7 years.
Clinton emails.
Trump uses campaign donations to enrich his own businesses.
Clinton emails.
Trump says Ted Cruz father involved in JFK assassination.
Clinton emails.
Trump says laziness is an inherent trait in black people.
Clinton emails.
Did we miss anything?
Gee who should I vote for? Trump seems to have negatives, but Clinton gets incessant negative press (which all stems from one thing, that not illegal when she had it, no charges were filed, and it wouldnt even be a blip on the radar for Trump if it was him that did it when you compare it to his other scandals).”

What more is there to say! I doubt anyone has read all this but I had to have my two penneth as we say here in the UK.

Related Links

Trump’s presidency is doomed

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-presidency-is-doomed/2017/01/16/961763fc-dc1e-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c_story.html?utm_term=.d159dee4d99b

Donald Trump will violate the US constitution on inauguration day

Because of the emoluments clause, the electoral college would be fully justified in concluding that he is unsuited to the presidency

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/19/donald-trump-violate-us-constitution-inauguration-day

The USA today In the wake of trumps victory
Police are investigating a wave of alleged hate crimes against Muslims, Hispanic Americans, black people, ethnic minorities and the LGBT community in the wake of the US election.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html

You will find this shocking
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html

In the wake of Trump’s election win Tuesday night though, the reality is settling in that a man who has called Mexicans rapists and suggested a ban on Muslims is now going to run the country. But something else is settling in as well: that Americans largely decided that the fact that Trump has been accused of sexual assault wasn’t a good enough reason to not vote for him

https://www.romper.com/p/how-to-help-sexual-assault-victims-following-trumps-win-because-his-victory-is-a-trigger-22347

http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/

Michael Moore: 7 Things We Must Do as Trump Prepares for the White House

We have no interest in compromising with racists and misogynists.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/michael-moore-anti-trump-do-list

Credit Photograph
By Gage Skidmore from Peoria, AZ, United States of America (Donald Trump) [CC BY-SA 2.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0)%5D, via Wikimedia Commons
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Donald_Trump_(29347022846).jpg

 

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2 thoughts on “Donald Trump: Petitions and Comments

  1. You’ve expressed perfectly my own feelings. I have family in the States, and they are pro-Trump. I found this incomprehensible until I realised that they aren’t able to, or don’t, access the sort of news we get constantly over here about the man. They only see two things: first, he’s promised to abolish Obamacare which has raised astronomically the cost of their health insurance payments – as they see it. They don’t seem to realise that 22 million of the most vulnerable will be left with no access to health care; second, he’s a business man and has promised prosperity by bringing jobs and protecting American industry. That is why people have voted for him. And they’ve believed his rhetoric about “making America great again.” I seriously believe there will be many many disappointed and disillusioned people after the next four years.

    If he lasts that long. I have a feeling that he will crash and burn. Let us hope. My other hope is that the huge opposition to him will be galvanised to such an extent that he will be opposed at every turn of his vicious, pernicious agenda.

    What an awful year 2016 was. First Brexit, then Trump:(

    Thank you for all your hard work putting together this incredibly impressive post. So sorry to hear about your reasons for being off the radar for some time. I wish you hope, health and happiness for the remainder of 2017. x

    • Thank you for your interesting comment. Indeed people see only that which directly affects them and fail to see the big picture. If your relatives do not have access to the internet it is likely they do not get all or unbiased information as is the case here. Thank you for mentioning Obamacare and the promise of bringing back jobs to America, reasons many voted for this man despite his vicious bigoted agenda. I guess if you ‘re affected by either you are likely to vote solely on this alone – at least this seems to be so for many people.

      It is tragic that this man will undo all the good of Obamacare in providing people with health care they would otherwise not be able to afford, it is shocking that in such a wealthy country that people can die unnecessarily simply because they do not have the extraordinary amounts of money required to finance medical treatment. It is just so depressing that people reject better access to health care for the most vulnerable and poorest by voting for Trump. The progress made on this regard will be wiped out and millions will suffer. As you say I think many simply do not understand the implications, I would guess many now regret voting for this man or will do so very soon.

      I agree with you that many people will be disappointed. I too doubt he will be president for the duration and may well be impeached, at least I hope so though Pence could turn out to be even worse than Trump. Time will tell. I hope that opposition does not fade and people do not begin accept the status quo, which so sadly often happens.

      Thank you so much for your good wishes. Indeed 2016 was a bad year for many both on a personal, national and international level. I hope this year will be better though it is not of course looking good. Anyway despite all I hope 2017 is a good year for you and yours.

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